Macron: Two years of Israel's military campaign, yet Hamas' forces remain the same

In an extensive interview with 'Israel’s' Channel 12, French President Emmanuel Macron addressed France’s position on 'Israel', Gaza, and the recognition of a Palestinian state, clarifying the rationale behind his government’s diplomatic initiatives.

While reaffirming 'Israel’s' right to self-defense, Macron criticized what he described as the “permanent war” in Gaza, stating that prolonged military campaigns have proven ineffective.

“There are the same number of Hamas fighters today as there were two years ago,” he said. “At the same time, so many civilian lives have been lost, damaging Israel’s credibility in the region and internationally.”

Macron also addressed France’s push for recognition of a Palestinian state, emphasizing that it is not a concession to Hamas. “Recognizing a Palestinian state is a decision to say that the legitimate perspective of the Palestinian people has nothing to do with Hamas,” he explained.

He described the recognition process as part of a broader initiative to create new commitments and behaviors, citing a June 9 letter from Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas condemning Hamas as a terrorist organization and supporting disarmament measures.

The French president defended the timing of the move, arguing it was necessary to counter 'Israeli' policies undermining the two-state solution.

“We probably should have done this earlier, before October 7th, to be honest. But now, after the vote encouraging resettlement in the West Bank, it is probably the last moment before the two-state proposal becomes completely impossible.”

On accusations that France’s decision was influenced by its large Muslim population, Macron dismissed the claim, asserting that his government’s policy is rooted in principles of unity, peace, and a long-term diplomatic strategy. “I have never taken a diplomatic position based on internal politics,” he said.

Macron also addressed rising anti-Semitism in Europe. He expressed concern over threats faced by Jewish communities, emphasizing that condemning anti-Semitism is separate from diplomatic initiatives regarding Palestine.

“There is no justification for anti-Semitism,” he said, criticizing attempts to link France’s recognition of Palestine with rising hate incidents.

Regarding the ongoing situation in Gaza, Macron suggested potential European sanctions if the current military operations continue, calling them “serious mistakes” and inconsistent with international law. He proposed a UN-mandated international force to ensure security and facilitate humanitarian aid, coupled with efforts to strengthen Palestinian security forces under 'Israeli' oversight.

The president also spoke about his longstanding relationship with 'Israeli' leadership, particularly Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, noting that dialogue and respect remain central to France’s approach. Macron reiterated France’s commitment to preventing a cycle of violence while advancing a political solution that isolates Hamas and promotes stability in the region.

- Addressing Iran -

On Iran, Macron confirmed that France, alongside European partners, intends to reactivate sanctions if Tehran fails to commit to nuclear restrictions, underscoring the importance of European unity in managing regional threats.

Reflecting on his own political journey, Macron admitted that serving as president has left little time for personal plans. “It’s very difficult, if not impossible, to make personal plans,” he said. “Today I am completely dedicated to this mission. When the time comes, I will build a future.”

In closing, Macron highlighted the human dimension behind political decisions.

“Everything we talk about may sometimes sound technical or political, but in the end, it’s always about human beings. And that’s who we are,” he said.